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Sorry if this seems naive but do students in America actually work that hard these days? Modern television and social media seem to suggest they are all on drugs and doing God knows what


This is fairly representative experience for high achieving students. When I was in high school, I was typically up at 6:30 AM to get to my 7:00 AM AP class. Classes can end anywhere from 3-4 pm, depending on your course work. After school clubs and activities ranged from commitment. But we were under the assumption that it mattered a lot for college admissions, so many of us participated in 2-3. Once you got home, you had a considerably amount of homework from each class. If you were prepping for standardized exams, you probably dedicated some time to study that as well. Overall, I felt the amount of time spent working in high school was taxing. But also it worked out for me - went to a good college and got a good job and life.


Kids shouldn’t be aiming for well-rounded at all; that’s a classic misread of what selections committees are looking for. Our PhD selections chair was explicit about wanting a well-rounded class full of students with great depth.

Frankly reading about students with six hobbies and after school activities and volunteering is exhausting. I can’t emphasize this enough: that kind of grind is wasteful, and makes you look just like everyone else.


I remember waking around 7am and leaving school around 3pm, then no more than on average ~2 hours of extracurriculars and ~2 hours of homework.

I think the quantity was reasonable, except too much busywork, I wish I could replace it with subjects I was passionate about (i.e. tech).

I also had the entire summer between senior year and college to decompress.

Nowadays I hear that most public schools are giving less work. With all due respect, I believe GP is an anomaly and/or it wasn't the school, but their own pressure.


>Modern television and social media seem to suggest

Wouldn't exactly make the most compelling content, would it?


From my experience interviewing students applying to Ivies, they are working even harder than before. I am blown away by their resumes.


America is a bimodal sort of place.


Bimodal economy.


Both are true.


How do I get on this gravy train


First, you need to want to make A LOT OF MONEY. Secondly, you need to throw anything you know about morals and ethics, and if you have compassion/empathy for others, you need to leave that somewhere too.

Once these things are taken care of, there are so many opportunities to make so much money. If you're in the US, look at what the current US politicians and the administration is doing, and basically copy them. Right now in the US is the era for shameless greedy people, and it is extremely easy to make money from the gullible population. But again, requires the whole "shameless" part.


“Careless People” lays it out pretty well – you either need to make the right friends in college at an Ivy League or you need to be friends with someone else who did. If you made the mistake of not being born into a family that groomed you since birth for the ivy leagues then sorry, that ship has sailed already.


And then if you didn't make that mistake, you end up as either:

a) champaign socialist

b) head of ethics at OpenAI and not really listened to because you're really probably (a)


> champaign socialist

I feel like this is a complaint heard mostly in Decatur, IL.


You need to actually do some NGO / oversight / ethics work that matters for a while, then you're the perfect candidate for these kinds of roles where you'll be able to do a lot but ultimately not be able to change anyone's already made up opinions within the company. These big companies have other roles than just head of ethics, even sometimes Civil Rights officers, etc. They make a lot but don't get to do anything and a lot of times they just use these jobs to make some money then jump back to non-profits, etc.


I have a feeling this might negatively impact Isomorphic as well since they also fall under Alphabet


Hopefully not - Isomorphic also have external investors (maybe 10-20% ownership?), who may be willing to buy it outright from Google if they lose interest, and Hassabis is now said to be "leaning into" the role of Isomorphic CEO, which is at least pursuing his goal for scientific advance via AI, if only in one specific (important) direction.

https://endpoints.news/demis-hassabis-leaning-into-isomorphi...


this guy most dangerous motherf* man, so edgy, what do you expect


> The market for bounties is a circus, breadcrumbs for free work from people trying to 'make it'. > The number of CVSS vulns with a score above 8 that have floated across the front page of HN in the past year without anyone getting paid tells you that much.

You make it sound like there's a ton of people going around who can just dig up CVSS vulns above 8 and is making me all confused. Is that really happening? I have a single bounty on H1 just to show I could do it, and that still took ages and was a shitty bug.


The weighted average is 7.6. Finding them doesn't necessarily take much effort if you know what to look for.


A lot of Chinese apps still do. Mostly cause I guess they don't allow Google play store in China (? I think it's blocked, can't quite remember for sure)


I'm curious about this though, does a rich man actually wear the same pair of boots for 10 years?

That being said, I've noticed that a lot of clothes that I bought 10 years ago or so are of pretty high quality compared to today, (and no, they are not rich man's clothes). Some of them I actually have been wearing for more than 10 years now.


Oh hey I'm uniquely positioned to answer this; though I'm in tech (and at this point frankly speaking well-compensated) my family have been bootmakers for decades.

I'm sitting at a tech office right now wearing a pair of boots that my father made for me in 2015 - regardless, they're absolutely spotless and I'd wear them to a formal event without hesitation. Every 6 months or so when I'm by his store I shine them up and put in a fresh pair of leather laces. Every 3 or so years, he re-soles them when the soles eventually wear out and lose traction. Eventually they'll require a rebuild, but they've got probably another 5-10 years of daily wear in them before that. I've got a few more pairs I swap between every so often, like a pair with OD green canvas that looks nice with khakis, but these solid black ones are my daily wear.

While 10 years sounds like a good run for boots, my father has a pair at ~35 years old now that he still wears frequently. IIRC they've been through one or two rebuilds and few re-soles in that time.

Were these commodity sneakers, I'd be purchasing a new pair every few months. Even nice running or trail shoes only tend to last a few hundred miles in my experience, but I've put tens of thousands on these and will get ten thousand more easily. Re-soles and rebuilds aren't free, but they're less than a replacement and put years of lifetime back on the boot. They're also comfortable as hell and fit me like a glove.

So in short: yeah, rich men do wear the same pair of boots for 10 years, or even far longer.


Not all boots are made the same though. I had some bad luck with a pair of veldtschoen welted boots from the English firm Crockett and Jones in a custom leather. The commando sole split twice at the toe, which they repaired, but after less than five years of wear the lining at the heel had worn through.

I took them in to be rebuilt, but after inspection they said the stiffener had come loose, and nothing could be done. Here have your expensive and now broken boots back.

I'd assumed when I got them I'd be wearing them for decades, and at least a few rebuilds. Maybe there was something wrong with that specific pair, but I did have a goodyear welted sole randomly detach from a pair of six month old city shoes from the same firm. And yes I had been looking after my shoes (frequent cleaning and polishing, always using shoe trees, skipping days between wears, etc).

When I had a pair of Church's fall apart I put that down to them no-longer being a quality brand, but now I don't think you can guarantee a long life just as the shoe was expensive and from a reputable brand. I have many shoes that have lasted better (and now since covid I don't wear polished shoes daily), but that does sometimes feel like luck of the draw.


When I had a pair of Church's fall apart I put that down to them no-longer being a quality brand

Church's was unfortunately bought by Prada, and is now a fashion brand more than a traditional high quality shoemaker.


https://franksboots.com/

Are you these guys? One techbro recommended these to me and my cofounder and I've never looked back. Your boots are going places, literally!

Edit:- Changed link to direct.


Yes, that's my family's business, I'm glad to hear you've had such great experiences. Similar to you, I've never looked back; every time I put on trail shoes I yearn for my boots again.


Your boots have withstood the Amazon forest and the floodwaters in Kerala, India, is all I'll say. Nothing more.


Any objective comparisons to Whites, Nicks, Thursday boots?


Purely anecdotal, but I know friends have used Nicks without issue. The basic advice I got was to buy jackets and leatherware from places in Washington and Oregon.


I bought Levi's 501s at a farm supply store in the 80s, $12 on sale. About 10 years ago I gave away my two remaining pairs. They were a little thinner but still intact, no holes anywhere. Modern 501s are made of much thinner fabric; I'd be surprised if they would last 5 years. Looks like the sale price is $45 now, which seems comparable.


I bought a pair of 501s recently and they barely lasted 6 months. I do a fair bit of cycling which seemed to very quickly wear through them. I'm really not sure what to buy if I want things that last a long time now.


Levis are fashion products, not workwear. But even if they were, if you want things to last a long time then buy things made for a specific purpose. Denim products made by cycling brands are a rarity for a reason.


You don't have to be rich to buy shoes ([1]) that can last you 10 years if you take care of them and re-sole them few times.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_welt


Of course. And also it may be less expensive to buy 5 pairs of shoes that last 3 years each than 1 pair that last 15 years. Anyway the rich don't get rich because they can buy better clothes or appliances, they can buy them because they are rich.


"you can't save yourself rich"

(but with compound interest and market growth, ...)


One thing that better brands seem to have is longevity of sales.

If you find a good pair of boots, you can probably buy again without going through the investigation of an equivalent replacement.

That something to appreciate when you find something good.


That's stock speculation for you, everything you do is wrong in retrospect


Feels equally plausible that there would have been an across the board increase in tariffs just to look tough. There is no logical analysis of the current situation.


I just buy during big fucking crises, either individual stocks or index funds. Front page of the NYT type shit, "existential threats" to 100+ year old concerns. Boeing, Toyota, pandemic. Such opportunities only come up every 2-3 years or so. Sell after 1-2 years to get the lower tax rate.


DCA and time in market beat trying to time the market. If you're doing nothing all day but refreshing Twitter and Robinhood maybe there's some alpha but that's too much involvement for me.


The first sentence is a thought-terminating cliche and is not true. Correctly guessing the shape of the Trump tariff crash was worth an entire year in the market. Crashes that don't instantly reverse themselves tend to be more like ten years.


yes but unfortunately for me, I don't have insider information or a time machine. If you had $10,000 today, where would you put it?


VOO, QQQM, AMZN. Value cost averaging. Put more in as it drops, less if it increases.


Not America any more. That Ponzi scheme has just been popped.


From the way they keep asking for donations, I thought they were constantly about to go out of business. Props to them though, good journalism is important


Oof. Interesting take.


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